EDITORIAL: This is a "talk" of the Creek and "Cherickes" Nations. The Cherokees in this setting are the Chickamauga, who remained loyal supporters of the King, while the Canadian, Great Lakes Cherokee were American Loyalists. Further, there is a ceremonial ritual taking place at this meeting that is only part of the Mound Culture and Religion which eleminates the Canadian, Great Lakes Cherokee.
Talk 5th. This is interesting in that the 1785 treaty has already been signed by "all the Cherokees" (Speakers of the Cherokee Trade Language) and they say that they are still only under the authority of the King of England across the great waters. This is actually more interesting than a first or secong glancing read. This demonstrates how the Indians aligned with the countries that protected them and gave them the most for their trades.
Talk 7th, They were willing to fight along with the English against the Americans and Spanish. This abruptly changes after England signs the Treaty of Paris. The Creek and Cherokee immediately turn to the Spanish to protect them against the Americans. It is true that the enemy of your enemy is your friend as with the Spanish and Americans.
Talk 10th, They show they will support England and raise her colors if they will supply them with powder and lead and war stores.
Enclosure: Minutes of Creek Council, 2 March 1789
Enclosure
Minutes of Creek Council
[Corvatas,1 2 March 1789]
By the Kings Chiefs and head Warriors of the Creek and Cherickes Nations of Indians at a Genera⟨l⟩ meeting over black Drink at the Square of ⟨the⟩ Corvatas the 2d of the windy moon 1789.
Master of the Talks John Galphin, Hula Mica the Hollowing King M. Daurazaux Linxter.
Talk 1st That the Georgians comes on our land by Building houses on the Altamaha River on our hunting ground, and Driveing our game five or Six hundred miles further Back Then when our fathers and friends the English nation had it in their Possesion.
Talk 2d That we are at war with them and will not make peace with them, untill are further advised after the Busk.
Talk 3d That we are Ready to Send the Broken days through all our nations to our Kings and head warriors who ⟨mutilated⟩ not at this meeting to proclaim a General war again⟨st⟩ the Rebels that drove our beloved away from us a Cros⟨s⟩ the great water.
Talk 4th That the Spanards also are our Enemies and that we will not be friends with them for that they give us Tabacco Rice with Red pepper and Rum which they give us for Taffie A Brime Salt in Exchange for our Beaver furs and Skins and that we Cannot get Blankets nor Strouds from them in Exchange for our furs and Deer Skins &a &a.
talk 5th That we acknowledge no King nor nation to Rule or govern us but the great King of England a Cross the great water, And that he is our father and brother and that all of his Country are our beloved men and that the Spanards and Americans are our Enemies and that we will be Enemies to them while the Sun and moon Reigns.
talk 6th That we want a British fort and house built at Apalatcha or St Marys for Comerce and that British goods may be Sent out to us powder and lead, which we will give our furs and peltry in Exchange, and that we will defend the fort ourselves against the Spanards and Americans.
talk 7th That we will send our fathers and brothers the English a Return of the Warriors, in our Towns who owns the great King of England to be their Brother and will fight for him and his great nation and make war or peace for him when he pleases to Command us.
talk 8th Return of our warriors in our Nations
Latchaway and its Boundaries Including Simclomans 2500
Flint River St Mary’s and St Johns and two Hilohatri Towns 1500
N⟨a⟩ches Cursetors and its boundaries 1000
Corsators Broken Arrow and its Boundaries 1500
Tuckabachas and both Talasses 1000
Talapusie and its Boundaries 500
Cherickes nation by Report of the Kings Chiefs and head Warriors Ready to go to war 4000
12000
talk 9th That the Nation of Mowhawks Chickasaws and Chacktaws will Join our nations against the Spanards and Americans if the are Supported by the King of the English Nation.
talk 10th That if our brother the great King a Cross the great water will furnish us with powder and Lead and war stores we will make war with Spain and america and Hoist his Colours when Ever we gain a Victory.
talks Still Continued
1st That we appoint our beloved man and warrior Thomas Dalton Esquire our leader to Cross the great water and make our talks Known to our brother the great King of England and his beloved Chiefs and head warriors and to give out his talks and to Receive theirs in their Squares or war Cabbins and we shall governed by his Talks as he is our beloved man Captain and warrior.
talk 2d That three warriors may be Sent Express to our head King Alexander McGillivry Esqr. with our talks that he may make them Straite in his war Cabbin at little Tallasses in the upper Creek nation and that if these talks are good and Straite talks they must accompany our beloved man to Pensacola and there gett a Spanish pass for him to Cross the great water So as to make our talks Known to the King of the English nation his head warriors and beloved men.
talk 3d That if our beloved man is hurt or Insulted by the Spanards or Stoped in his way while on our business we will take the Governor ONeels Scalp and burn pensacola.
talk 4th That our beloved man after he Returns from holding our and his talks with our fathers and friends a Cross the great water may Come to our nation by way of the Ohio from lake Superior or Arie and Come down the Missippi River and that he may give out our talks to our brothers the Mohawkes He Knows them and their Country and head warrior our brother Colonel Guy Johnston.
Talk 5th That as our beloved man goes amongst our brothers the English to hold our talks we hope he not be injured in any mannor Suffer for any thing while he Remains in their Country and that they may Send him again out to us with their talks wither by Canada or East Florida as they and he may agree in the talks of their great King head warriors and beloved men.
We now Confirm these talks as our Straite talks with a Holoh and full Cup of Black Drink with our beloved man and Spils our Blood to shew the English nation we are Ready to Spill it for them.
John Galphin the mark of Hula Mica Hollowing King X
Copy, in the hand of “John A. Dingwell”, DNA: RG 59, Miscellaneous Letters. This and the following items appear in no apparent order on two large sheets folded over and written on both sides, as well as on two smaller sheets, and have been arranged chronologically by the editor.
During the American Revolution Loyalist South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida merchants who had previously controlled the southwestern fur trade were generally exiled or otherwise lost most of their influence over the region’s Indians, and many withdrew to Canada or the Bahamas.
Without the official approval of the British ministry, they intrigued with various backcountry adventurers, such as Dr. John Connolly and James O’Fallon, in plots to involve independently minded American frontiersmen in projected attacks against Spanish territory. Connolly, for instance, had journeyed in 1788 from Detroit to Louisville, where he met with James Wilkinson in order to secure the cooperation of Kentucky settlers in a thrust against New Orleans (see GW to the U.S. Senate, 4 Aug. 1790, Enclosure, source note; Wright, “British Designs on the Old Southwest,” 267–75).
The pace of such British intrigues in the Southwest picked up during the Nootka Sound crisis. Men like John Murray, earl of Dunmore, governor of the Bahamas, continued to exert influence over their former colleagues, local traders in the Indian country who had taken Indian wives or were part Indian themselves, or schemed with other men of prestige among the southwestern tribes, such as William Augustus Bowles. In 1788 Bowles, with Dunmore’s backing, led George Welbank, Thomas Dalton, and other former Loyalists on an armed mercantile expedition in Creek country. Dalton remained for several months among the Lower Creeks after the failure of Bowles’s expedition, adopting their ways and insinuating himself into their councils. In early 1789 he made his way to Pensacola and sailed to England to petition the British administration on behalf of those Creek and Cherokee chiefs who had retained their British sympathies and were dissatisfied with Creek headman Alexander McGillivray’s pro-Spanish policy. Dalton met with little success in London and returned to America in time to interfere with McGillivray’s negotiations with the administration in New York in the summer of 1790 (see Memorandum from Tobias Lear, 18 Aug. 1790, n.3; Wright, Bowles, 31–32, 38–39, 46–47).
1. “Dingwell” may have transcribed Coweta as “Corvatas.” A March 1789 petition of the Creek and Cherokee chiefs at Coweta is in P.R.O., CO 42/87 (Wright, Bowles, 180, n.12).